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"De-carbon and Cleaning Service" was recommended yesterday...

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#1 ·
I just did my routine 40,000 mile service yesterday. Car's been running great, no noticeable issues, good gas mileage consistently in the 28-29 range.

The Hyundai service guy recommended two additional services which they said "needs immediate attention": a brake fluid flush (which I did); and the "de-carbon and cleaning service" which I declined, for now. They wanted $250 for that one and I wanted to learn more about it first. They said they noticed considerable carbon build-up under the valves and this would prevent future problems, increase fuel economy and restore lost power.

• My fuel economy still exceeds my expectations, and I certainly have not noticed any loss of power.
• I always use so-called Top-Tier gas (or at least 95% of the time).
• I have used the Techron additive just prior to my 15K and 30K services.

So I didn't feel this was so critical at this time, and I felt safe delaying it at least until the next scheduled maint. This service is something I had not heard of before so I wanted to sound out a few voices around here who have had it done, and when did you do this?
Like I said, I will probably get this done next time. I just want to learn more about it first as I am always skeptical about dealer up-sells.
 
#2 ·
the dealership recommended "GDI service" be done when I had mine in at 31K miles.
The shop I've gone to for years and trust is recommending "injector cleaning" when I bring it in next week at 64K miles (I think only if it hasn't been done yet). It's supposed to help power and fuel efficiency, so I'm guessing they're talking about the same thing
 
#10 ·
Hello,
I had my 40K service done, (@38,000 miles, needed oil changed) last week. They tried to up sell me on that too ($169), I declined. There was a review I was watching last year about the SC and they said that since the 2.5T has both direct and port injection (SmartStream engine), it is much less prone to carbon build up on the valves, like direct injection only engines have. I think we just saved some money:)
 
#11 · (Edited)
Wife had her Tucson done at a dealer, and needed a new air filter, according to the service manager. They even brought out the dirty filter to show her. Funny thing was she knew what it looked like, as I showed her how to change one. This wasn't even the correct filter. I had a word later with the manager about this.

Same dealer installs the flashing 3rd brake lights for only $700, which is illegal for a dealer to do. They get around this by using a "Pulse" type light that technically doesn't flash. We used to go their because it was closer, now we don't.
 
#13 ·
"Decarbon and cleaning" would only apply to direct injection engines like my previous 2018 Honda Pilot one of the reasons I traded it for 2023 palisade which is also port and direct injected. Direct injection only causes carbon buildup, coking which requires the cleaning. I used to be a Honda fanboy but Honda is no longer leading auto technology and keeping direct injection only through to recent models is an insult to its customers.
 
#14 ·
Funny too that Toyota (who is well known for NOT innovating and for using the same old crap for 20 years....) was using dual injection since the early 00s with d4s. While vw and Honda have for whatever reason refused to go it 20 years later. When ford and Toyota (who again run the same things for decades) beat you to dual injection. It's dumb. GM even has it on old school cam in Block engines with the lt5 and ls2
 
#22 ·
I can comment about Honda. They are staying with GDI engines to pad the dealers pockets. We had a 2007 Honda accord 3.5L V6. It had a rubber timing belt that needed to be replaced at 100K miles. That same V6 engine is still in production, by Honda, with that darn rubber timing belt that needs replacing at 100K. Jamb the customer.

In 2015 at the dealer it cost me $1500.00 for the belt replacement service. That same service is now $2500.00. Dealer greed.

I complained to mother Honda in 2015 asking why in that day and age they were using a rubber timing belt on the 3.5L V6. I never got an answer. It's obvious they are saying with GDI engines to pad the dealers pocket, with carbon cleaning.
 
#23 ·
I can comment about Honda. They are staying with GDI engines to pad the dealers pockets. We had a 2007 Honda accord 3.5L V6. It had a rubber timing belt that needed to be replaced at 100K miles. That same V6 engine is still in production, by Honda, with that darn rubber timing belt that needs replacing at 100K. Jamb the customer.

In 2015 at the dealer it cost me $1500.00 for the belt replacement service. That same service is now $2500.00. Dealer greed.

I complained to mother Honda in 2015 asking why in that day and age they were using a rubber timing belt on the 3.5L V6. I never got an answer. It's obvious they are saying with GDI engines to pad the dealers pocket, with carbon cleaning.
I agree about the rubber timing belt. I had a 2003 Tundra that had a rubber timing belt also. I just don't trust the rubber belts. I trust timing chains much more.