[Dex]

I know it has available AWD, no mention of the driven wheels... safe to assume front?



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[TimmyB]

I know it has available AWD, no mention of the driven wheels... safe to assume front?

They said it would have Hyundai's "HTRAC AWD system". Not really familiar with that, I did a quick search and found this on MotorTrend.com:

Introducing Hyundai?s HTRAC All-Wheel Drive System

This article explains how they have implemented it on the Genesis. I am assuming it would be pretty close to this on the SC.

 

[BahamaTodd]

It is FWD with available AWD. With the HTRAC AWD system the vehicle will stay mostly in FWD until it detects slippage.

 

[Santana]

I think it's possible they might offer it standard with FWD, it would help with setting a lower price and maybe open them up to a wider crowd.

 

[BahamaTodd]

I think it's possible they might offer it standard with FWD, it would help with setting a lower price and maybe open them up to a wider crowd.

Yes, that's what I meant. AWD will not be standard - just like the Tucson.

 

[Santana]

Yeah, don't see them changing that, makes perfect sense to offer it in the same configurations, price difference between the two shouldn't be too far off from what it is like with the Tuscon.

 

[BahamaTodd]

I wonder how quickly the hybrid electric AWD HTRAC system will find its way into vehicles. The FWD drivetrain stays the same and an electric motor drives the rear.

http://www.santacruzforums.com/forum/car-lounge/866-kia-chicago-auto-show-announcement.html#post6602

 

[Santana]

that's a tough one, not sure at all what the timeline could be like for Hyundai to finally use it in something like this or in a segment on a level like this is.

 

[ChuckAStone]

It is FWD with available AWD. With the HTRAC AWD system the vehicle will stay mostly in FWD until it detects slippage.

So there's only auto all-wheel drive? What about manual 4-wheel drive when driving on the beach? Or can you manually engage the 4 wheel or all-wheel drive system?

 

[BahamaTodd]

AWD vehicles are usually fully automatic. With the HTRAC system in the Genesis you can choose different modes (Normal, Sport, Eco and Snow). I'm sure if they wanted to they could provide different options for snow, sand, etc. It would still be fully automated though.

Jeep does something similar:

 

[Santana]

IMO, giving people the option is the way to go, I expect them to follow the same trend as they have with their other vehicles, like with the genesis.

 

[ChuckAStone]

AWD vehicles are usually fully automatic. With the HTRAC system in the Genesis you can choose different modes (Normal, Sport, Eco and Snow). I'm sure if they wanted to they could provide different options for snow, sand, etc. It would still be fully automated though.

Jeep does something similar:

Oh man! I'm loving that setup in the picture. What model of Jeep is that?

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[BahamaTodd]

Oh man! I'm loving that setup in the picture. What model of Jeep is that?

Thanks

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[Santana]

If it was a shifter instead of dial, it would make going into each different setting a bit more exciting

 

[don4331]

If Santa Cruz is using Tuscon as platform; it won't use HTRAC.

Tuscon uses a transverse engine; while HTRAC requires a longitudinal engine platform.

Tuscon's AWD uses electric clutches to engage the rear axle. But as the Tuscon doesn't have a limited slip front differential, it relies on traction of the left front wheel to send power to the rear wheels. ('Traction' can be artificially simulated by use of brakes on wheel that is spinning - Cadillac does that in SRX, etc - not 4wd, but if done well, close enough for practical purposes - just a little harder on brake pads).

Give me a pair of electric lockers and now we're talking. Then you could be spinning all 4 wheels.

You aren't physically moving anything in transmission (solenoids and electric motors do all the work), so a lever just requires more cost (so you can't damage it if you try to force it beyond limits) as you are just toggling a switch.

Only in a Jeep Wrangler is driver actually activating 4wd these days...

Don

 

[BahamaTodd]

HTRAC is just a marketing term for a Hyundai vehicle with more advanced AWD with selectable modes.

Hyundai mentions in their press release for the Santa Cruz that it has HTRAC:
HYUNDAI INTRODUCES CONVENTION-SHATTERING SANTA CRUZ CROSSOVER TRUCK CONCEPT AT DETROIT INTERNATIONAL AUTO SHOW

Efficiency is a key attribute of its advanced powertrains, with an environmentally-friendly 2.0-liter turbo diesel powertrain delivering 190 horsepower and 300 lb.-ft. of torque, while achieving fuel economy in the high 30 mpg range. Santa Cruz also offers Hyundai’s HTRAC® All-wheel drive system, so there’s no anxiety about getting those snowboarding “fresh tracks” right after a storm moves through.

 

[don4331]

Just strange then as the 2016 Tucson has the same electronically clutched rear differential as the older version per the 2015 Geneva car show.

Which is not the system in the Genesis...

 

[BahamaTodd]

The 2016 Tucson doesn't have HTRAC branded AWD.

 

[Santana]

I love how brands name specific functions like how Hyundai did with this AWD system, which makes it clear it's all part of their marketing effort. The name they came up for their AWD system helps to create the feeling and understanding people want of AWD systems.

 

[ChuckAStone]

If it was a shifter instead of dial, it would make going into each different setting a bit more exciting

I totally agree with the shifter. It would make it much more exciting but also much more straight forward when choosing between options. I will also be harder to accidentally bump the dial into a different setting.