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Hyundai considering pickup after good reaction to Santa Cruz
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That is sooo true. I'm wondering now myself. It might look nothing like the Santa Cruz or it could look very similar. Only with time will we know.
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im of the opinion it will be like a subaru baja. a typical SUV with a bed replacing everything behind the c pillar...
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Obviously the design would be toned down for production, but they can't tone it down too much. The styling is a major factor in the positive response they have received so far. The work that they are doing now is to actually figure out how they are going to deliver what they promised - five passenger seating, a usable bed, good efficiency, and most importantly, the styling.
One of the Hyundai managers mentioned in an interview that he would like to see better back seat room. The Tucson platform as it is might be too small. Maybe they can extend it a bit. Maybe they need to move up to the Santa Fe Sport platform. The rear suicide doors are also not set in stone. Maybe those will change to conventional doors.
The proportions might change slightly, but the general styling overall needs to stay true to the concept.
One of the Hyundai managers mentioned in an interview that he would like to see better back seat room. The Tucson platform as it is might be too small. Maybe they can extend it a bit. Maybe they need to move up to the Santa Fe Sport platform. The rear suicide doors are also not set in stone. Maybe those will change to conventional doors.
The proportions might change slightly, but the general styling overall needs to stay true to the concept.
I was looking at numbers:
Fiat sold 100k+ Stradas per year in Brazil in 2011!
Subaru only sold 30k in the 4+ years they were on sale in US/Canada; Dodge Rampage sold about 35k in 3 years of its existence.
Can Hyundai build in US and ship to Brazil (without incurring exorbitant tariffs)? I you can't sell more than 50k units, it isn't cost effect.
Timing is lousy at moment too - people are most apt to by a fuel efficient vehicle when price is climbing to $4USD/gal, than when it is barely $2USD/gal.
Bigger back seat, bigger box, bigger engine...and suddenly, it IS a mid size truck and IS in direct competition with Colorado/Canyon/Frontier/Tacoma; and is seriously lacking as truck.
Hyundai - please leave it as 2+2
When I need to comfortable transport 4/5, I will use something design to just transport people.
Fiat sold 100k+ Stradas per year in Brazil in 2011!
Subaru only sold 30k in the 4+ years they were on sale in US/Canada; Dodge Rampage sold about 35k in 3 years of its existence.
Can Hyundai build in US and ship to Brazil (without incurring exorbitant tariffs)? I you can't sell more than 50k units, it isn't cost effect.
Timing is lousy at moment too - people are most apt to by a fuel efficient vehicle when price is climbing to $4USD/gal, than when it is barely $2USD/gal.
Bigger back seat, bigger box, bigger engine...and suddenly, it IS a mid size truck and IS in direct competition with Colorado/Canyon/Frontier/Tacoma; and is seriously lacking as truck.
Hyundai - please leave it as 2+2
When I need to comfortable transport 4/5, I will use something design to just transport people.
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The plan was always for it to have a usable back seat. It is still relatively compact so it should seat four comfortably and five if you need to. If this doesn't come with comfortable 4/5 seating it will fail in the US.Bigger back seat, bigger box, bigger engine...and suddenly, it IS a mid size truck and IS in direct competition with Colorado/Canyon/Frontier/Tacoma; and is seriously lacking as truck.
Hyundai - please leave it as 2+2
The concept is currently 3 feet shorter than midsize trucks. Its also over a foot shorter than an old regular cab S-10 or Ranger. Even if they lengthen it by up to a foot it will still be much more compact. 2 feet is about the difference in length between a compact and fullsize car.
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Just in case you haven't seen this yet. This is the SC next to a "short" wheelbase Colorado.
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Is that suppose to be to scale? Looks super small and short.
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Yes its to scale. Both have 30 inch tall tires.
The concept has 265/40R22 tires:
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The concept has 265/40R22 tires:
SC is about 5' shorter than Colorado! - 30" for tire+another 30" behind the rear wheel.
Have you tried sitting in the back of that Colorado? It's too small for a10 year old; yet Chevy/Toyota/Nissan are selling midsized truck like that...
265/40R22 with their interesting tread pattern are great for the show truck; but the 225/50R17 for stock Tuscon are more appropriate to local roads - too many potholes for real low profile tire.
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Have you tried sitting in the back of that Colorado? It's too small for a10 year old; yet Chevy/Toyota/Nissan are selling midsized truck like that...
265/40R22 with their interesting tread pattern are great for the show truck; but the 225/50R17 for stock Tuscon are more appropriate to local roads - too many potholes for real low profile tire.
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Sao Paulo Auto Show Ford Raptor Sportage with 215/75R15s had an aggressive look that would look ok on a Santa Cruz...
Hyundai needs to move; or Dodge will bring the Strada in via Fiat and there won't be any market share for Santa Cruz... (Dodge would need an automatic in it for the American market, but they have a 6 spd in the 500L and a 9spd in the 500X).
Hyundai needs to move; or Dodge will bring the Strada in via Fiat and there won't be any market share for Santa Cruz... (Dodge would need an automatic in it for the American market, but they have a 6 spd in the 500L and a 9spd in the 500X).
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The bed on that Colorado is 6 feet long and the SC extends to about the center of the bed. Assuming the SC is about the length of the Tucson which is 173" (I've confirmed this is most likely the case based on the scaling), it is 39" shorter than the 212" Colorado.
The SC would be setup for more interior room and less bed space.
The 2016 Tucson will be available with up to 19" wheels with 245/45R19 tires.
The Strada would not so very well in the US since it is sedan based. The styling wouldn't be doing it any favors either.
Yea, that Fiat does not look like a very good design to me. The black plastic everywhere makes it look cheap to me.
As far as the SC goes. It's a good move to give up bed space for seating room. As long as the bed doesn't end up being unusable because its so small.
As far as the SC goes. It's a good move to give up bed space for seating room. As long as the bed doesn't end up being unusable because its so small.
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Don't forget about the extending bed. They seem to be pretty serious about it with securing patents.
Site here doesn't allow me to edit Was supposed to be 225/60R17 on Tuscon. 245/45R19s would be just as hard on rims - they're ok for Southern California where it never freezes; but up north here; it needs a narrower/taller tire. But it will be the standard size .
Quick look on Wiki: Hyundai Tuscon shares its platform with the Elantra - which last I checked was a sedan. Santa Cruz isn't going to be body on frame; its going to be unibody - which American buyers associate with cars.
Dimensions Fiat Strada Hyundai Tuscon
Wheelbase 107" 103.6"
Length 173.6" 173.6"
Height 65" 66.3"
Width 68.5"* 71.7"
Box Length 46.5"
Box Width 43" between wheel wells
Box Depth 23"
Tailgate Width 53.5"
*74" including mirrors; don't know if Hyundai measures with or without.
So, if Santa Cruz uses Tuscon platform; it will be within couple inches of Fiat Strada on all dimensions - for better/worse
My MTB is 69" nose to tail so fits in Strada's box with the tailgate down/box extender in place. If you took away 6" for increased rear seat room; the bike doesn't fit anymore...
That extended bed makes me nervous...with bed extended and tailgate down, you have some serious over hang. Picture couple average guys sitting on tailgate like that enjoying a frosty one after a day's riding...
Uploaded pic of base model without all the garish plastic. Yes, I prefer look of Santa Cruz, but if Fiat/Dodge have vehicle on lot while Hyundai is still mulling it over; my money will be spent.
Was supposed to be 225/60R17 on Tuscon. 245/45R19s would be just as hard on rims - they're ok for Southern California where it never freezes; but up north here; it needs a narrower/taller tire. But it will be the standard size .Quick look on Wiki: Hyundai Tuscon shares its platform with the Elantra - which last I checked was a sedan.
Santa Cruz isn't going to be body on frame; its going to be unibody - which American buyers associate with cars.Dimensions Fiat Strada Hyundai Tuscon
Wheelbase 107" 103.6"
Length 173.6" 173.6"
Height 65" 66.3"
Width 68.5"* 71.7"
Box Length 46.5"
Box Width 43" between wheel wells
Box Depth 23"
Tailgate Width 53.5"
*74" including mirrors; don't know if Hyundai measures with or without.
So, if Santa Cruz uses Tuscon platform; it will be within couple inches of Fiat Strada on all dimensions - for better/worse
My MTB is 69" nose to tail so fits in Strada's box with the tailgate down/box extender in place. If you took away 6" for increased rear seat room; the bike doesn't fit anymore...
That extended bed makes me nervous...with bed extended and tailgate down, you have some serious over hang. Picture couple average guys sitting on tailgate like that enjoying a frosty one after a day's riding...
Uploaded pic of base model without all the garish plastic. Yes, I prefer look of Santa Cruz, but if Fiat/Dodge have vehicle on lot while Hyundai is still mulling it over; my money will be spent.
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FYI, the 2016 Tucson is slightly larger:Site here doesn't allow me to edit
Quick look on Wiki: Hyundai Tuscon shares its platform with the Elantra - which last I checked was a sedan.
Dimensions Fiat Strada Hyundai Tuscon
Wheelbase 107" 103.6"
Length 173.6" 173.6"
Height 65" 66.3"
Width 68.5"* 71.7"
Box Length 46.5"
Box Width 43" between wheel wells
Box Depth 23"
Tailgate Width 53.5"
*74" including mirrors; don't know if Hyundai measures with or without.
So, if Santa Cruz uses Tuscon platform; it will be within couple inches of Fiat Strada on all dimensions - for better/worse
My MTB is 69" nose to tail so fits in Strada's box with the tailgate down/box extender in place. If you took away 6" for increased rear seat room; the bike doesn't fit anymore...
That extended bed makes me nervous...with bed extended and tailgate down, you have some serious over hang. Picture couple average guys sitting on tailgate like that enjoying a frosty one after a day's riding...
Uploaded pic of base model without all the garish plastic. Yes, I prefer look of Santa Cruz, but if Fiat/Dodge have vehicle on lot while Hyundai is still mulling it over; my money will be spent.
Length: 176.1"
Wheelbase: 105.1"
For the overhang with the bed extended, IMO it shouldn't be a problem. The wheel should be pretty centered under the bed or even pushed further towards the rear. With the bed being so short to begin with, adding a foot of extension will still have overhang well under trucks with larger 6' and 8' beds. I read somewhere or heard in a video interview about the SC that keeping the rear wheel as far back as possible was purposeful to avoid the awkward look of the Subaru Baja. Now that had serious overhang.
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