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I'm 57 years old, my wife 52, and we will be retiring from teaching in 2.5 years. We are avid triathletes, and if they do this vehicle right, I can see this being our daily driver. Wetsuits and wet kayak stuff can go in the back, bikes can mount on the hitch, and WAY more cool than a small CUV or wagon, which we now have!

I have always loved vehicles like this, and wanted to bring a Ute home from Australia in 2006. We really both flipped when Kia displayed the Soulster about 10 years ago, but they never pulled the trigger, especially after the crash of 2008. Hopefully, the time is right, now.
 

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screw the target market, it's all about needs and wants and clearly the Santa Cruz seems exactly like what you need. but of course all the marketing they will introduce to project the type of image they want to be associated with this will be of the target market.

were you ever into the Subaru Baja? it served sort of the same purpose here.
 

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screw the target market, it's all about needs and wants and clearly the Santa Cruz seems exactly like what you need. but of course all the marketing they will introduce to project the type of image they want to be associated with this will be of the target market.

were you ever into the Subaru Baja? it served sort of the same purpose here.
No, unfortuately, my wife REALLY hated the El Camino, back in the day, and this just reminded her of a 4-door EC! Surprisingly, we test drove our first Subaru (Outback) this past fall, and absolutely fell in love with it. We'd have already bought one, but they are selling faster than they can make them, so the price is not good, right now. We are putting off our buying decision until this fall, and went to NAIAS, just to look at every single car that ticks all of the boxes, and (sadly) the Outback is still far and away the leader. Now, if they announce that the Santa Cruz is a go,... :D:D:D
 

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Well, the El Camino never really was well received by women from what I have noticed with my own personal experience and through others like yourself, it's expected.

I sure hope the SC is a go, as much as i'd like to say it is, due to the nature of a product like this in our market, which we don't have any of currently, who knows what their move will be. Just need to play the waiting game!

Are there any things you have on your wishlist for the SC?
 

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Well, the El Camino never really was well received by women from what I have noticed with my own personal experience and through others like yourself, it's expected.

I sure hope the SC is a go, as much as i'd like to say it is, due to the nature of a product like this in our market, which we don't have any of currently, who knows what their move will be. Just need to play the waiting game!

Are there any things you have on your wishlist for the SC?
We looked real hard a few years back at the Honda Ridgeline, but there were three things that held us back: price, fuel economy, and looks. It just looked big and thick! This SC, on the other hand, has all three of those covered, it appears. At dinner tonight, we talked about this and she agrees that this might be the truck she's always wanted and the ute I've always wanted, melded into one!

On my MUST HAVE list: AWD, Active safety features (adaptive cruise control, etc.), good looks, good mileage, decent price, paddle shifters (yes, I'm serious, this is a must for me!), quality ride.

On the SHOULD HAVE list, meaning not deal-breakers, but would be disappointed to not have: dual climate controls, modern head unit that is compatible with Android Auto/MirrorLink, engine choices (not be forced into diesel only), cool color options.

How about you? What do you hope for?
 

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Yes on the MirrorLink!

I hate the fact that what phone you own (apple/android) affects what car manufacture you might go with as it seems they are all teaming up one way or another for car-phone integration. Can't they just flash software on the car so it would work one way or another or sell a module?

As for the rest of my wish list.. I don't care much for things like adaptive cruise control and power seats. What would really make me crazy for this car would be personalization options, like LCD gauges that are customizable, NFC keyless entry & key fob widget, climate control that adjust per the outside temperature automatically, ECU/engine monitoring on the stereo screen (like the torque app).

I'm a big car fan, and also a total computer geek so I would just love to put the two together.
 

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Yes on the MirrorLink!

I hate the fact that what phone you own (apple/android) affects what car manufacture you might go with as it seems they are all teaming up one way or another for car-phone integration. Can't they just flash software on the car so it would work one way or another or sell a module?

As for the rest of my wish list.. I don't care much for things like adaptive cruise control and power seats. What would really make me crazy for this car would be personalization options, like LCD gauges that are customizable, NFC keyless entry & key fob widget, climate control that adjust per the outside temperature automatically, ECU/engine monitoring on the stereo screen (like the torque app).

I'm a big car fan, and also a total computer geek so I would just love to put the two together.
I would've said the same thing about the adaptive cruise, six months ago, but then I drove the Outback with it. I am COMPLETELY sold on this technology. If I was only 99% convinced, this video from Hyundai made it 100%:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbjdmw8D9-Y
 

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Wow, that is impressive. I was not expecting it to auto turn around corners as well. Far more impressive than Volvo's attempt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eChAKm1t3U

From what I understand, it won't be allowed to do that in the USA. The lawyers would have a field day that "the car turned itself right into that tree"!

Seriously, though, when we drove the Outback, we put the cruise control on and let it come up behind some big trucks going up a hill. It slowed down to their speed WAY before we got into a dangerous situation, and as soon as we changed lanes (with no traffic in front of us), the ACC immediately throttled back up to where we were originally! Very cool stuff.
 
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