[chiefmastery]

Hi y’all!

Just took delivery of my SEL today and I have a question. Is there any way to swap positions of the speedometer and tachometer so that speed is on the right instead of the left? I’m so accustomed to my previous car having the Speedo on the right and I keep having to double take when checking speed.

Any help would be appreciated!

 

[Walking Black Bear]

Not that I'm aware of. I've never found any mention of being able to swap those anywhere.

 

[xChevyGuy]

If you go into your settings, you can a change your theme to cube mode. It doesn’t swap the positions but it makes both meters digital instead of the analog. May help to notice numbers better than read hand positions. I was playing around and just learned it today.

 

[rrbhokies]

I get what you say because with the speedo on the left, the speed ramps from 0 all the way from the far left bottom of the display. You really do have to adjust your head/eyes to look all the way to the left to see your speed. It would be more intuitive to have it on the right. I end up using the digital speedometer in the center cluster so I can see the speed better. What I really miss that my wife's '20 Santa Fe has is the heads up display. I never thought I would like it, but it has grown on me and I miss not having it on the SC. The fact that they don't even offer it in the top trims seems like a mis-step in my opinion esspecially how they've thrown in just about every other possible driver assist feature.

I'm guessing it's because the Tuscon, as an entry level vehicle didn't offer it, so the SC being based on the Tuscon, has to live with whatever the Tuscon offers, at least from the dash forward. That could prove to be a double-edged sword depending on the circumstance.

 

[JMII]

Despite being a digital screen the dash display is not customizable at all - you get what the OEM put in there and nothing more. There are 3 themes or looks which are basically just skins of the same information. The center part can be changed to show some extra info but even that is pretty limited compared to what other vehicles offer.

I wish it showed things like oil pressure, transmission temperature, boost pressure, etc. However getting all that data requires something like Dash Command or Torque running on your phone plus the OBD-II interface. I've use this with my other vehicles and its pretty impressive.

 

[ToadVine]

Despite being a digital screen the dash display is not customizable at all - you get what the OEM put in there and nothing more. There are 3 themes or looks which are basically just skins of the same information. The center part can be changed to show some extra info but even that is pretty limited compared to what other vehicles offer.

I wish it showed things like oil pressure, transmission temperature, boost pressure, etc. However getting all that data requires something like Dash Command or Torque running on your phone plus the OBD-II interface. I've use this with my other vehicles and its pretty impressive.

The aggravating part is that all the data is already right there! It just needs to be enabled in the user menus.

Oh, if only we could get our hands on the source code for it.... Oh, well, it will probably be implemented as a model-refresher bonus feature in a couple of years.

 

[Mike86merc]

I have had a couple of German cars where coding was popular. Where you can turn options on and off. Or change feature operations. It doesn't seem like something common with Hyundai vehicles.

 

[Woodie23]

Having just come from German car where I did some options coding ... (LED fogs, lights, welcome lights, A/C, mirrors, etc)... I really like that Hyundai put a bunch of those options in the Configuration menu - no "risky" programming through the diagnostic port. That said... I really, really wish we had more display options on the main console, not just skinning.

 

[JMII]

Oh, well, it will probably be implemented as a model-refresher bonus feature in a couple of years.

I assume these gauges will never change or change very little unitl a totally new model comes out. From a support standpoint the last thing you want is 10 difference versions floating around or users poking around in there. Its just too bad they don't offer an "advanced" menu of some kind. However opening up such things is a security risk. Imagine being able to turn off emergency braking due to some bug or glitch. OEMs are generally very risk adverse when it comes to these things.

Over the years my C7 has various dash display upgrades yet GM doesn't make them retroactive. All the code is VIN locked so the system knows your car shouldn't have that display. Very frustrating since there is no hardware differences at all, its all software. The only way to "trick" the system is find a wrecked car and use that VIN to upgrade yours. Clearly this highly frowned upon and if the dealer finds it they will erase the code so forget getting any warranty work done.

 

[monogodo]

Imagine being able to turn off emergency braking due to some bug or glitch. OEMs are generally very risk adverse when it comes to these things.

No glitch is required to turn it off:

 

[JMII]

No glitch is required to turn it off:

Sorry - to clarify: you mess with the display software and emergency braking shows as being ON but its actually OFF. That is why OEM don't want you inside there tweaking things. I know the speed-o and this screen are not related in anyway but its a black box, the software was never meant to be customized by the end user.

 

[monogodo]

If you go into your settings, you can a change your theme to cube mode. It doesn’t swap the positions but it makes both meters digital instead of the analog. May help to notice numbers better than read hand positions. I was playing around and just learned it today.

I tried Cube for a day, but didn't like it. So I switched to one of the others, but the speedo & tach are reversed from where they are in our Veloster, so I had the Speed displayed in the center. Then I realize that was silly to have the same information displayed twice, so I switched back to Cube to see if I could get used to it. I haven't switched it to anything else, and actually like it now.

Sorry - to clarify: you mess with the display software and emergency braking shows as being ON but its actually OFF. That is why OEM don't want you inside there tweaking things. I know the speed-o and this screen are not related in anyway but its a black box, the software was never meant to be customized by the end user.

That makes more sense.

 

[HSC4ME]

Don't know what the 10"+ flat screen gauge cluster lets you set up in the center screen between the speedo and tach, but on the base analog gauge cluster you can set the screen between the speedo and tach to display the #MPH nice and big right in the middle. That's the setting I use and rarely even look at the speedo on the left side.

 

[monogodo]

Don't know what the 10"+ flat screen gauge cluster lets you set up in the center screen between the speedo and tach, but on the base analog gauge cluster you can set the screen between the speedo and tach to display the #MPH nice and big right in the middle. That's the setting I use and rarely even look at the speedo on the left side.

Yes, the flat screen gauge cluster lets us do that, too. I tried it for a while, but didn't like it.

 

[CvPec]

Hi y’all!

Just took delivery of my SEL today and I have a question. Is there any way to swap positions of the speedometer and tachometer so that speed is on the right instead of the left? I’m so accustomed to my previous car having the Speedo on the right and I keep having to double take when checking speed.

Any help would be appreciated!

That's a good point. WTH were the designers thinking especially for the American market?

 

[Tedsky18045]

I assume these gauges will never change or change very little unitl a totally new model comes out. From a support standpoint the last thing you want is 10 difference versions floating around or users poking around in there. Its just too bad they don't offer an "advanced" menu of some kind. However opening up such things is a security risk. Imagine being able to turn off emergency braking due to some bug or glitch. OEMs are generally very risk adverse when it comes to these things.

Over the years my C7 has various dash display upgrades yet GM doesn't make them retroactive. All the code is VIN locked so the system knows your car shouldn't have that display. Very frustrating since there is no hardware differences at all, its all software. The only way to "trick" the system is find a wrecked car and use that VIN to upgrade yours. Clearly this highly frowned upon and if the dealer finds it they will erase the code so forget getting any warranty work done.

My 2021 3500hd duramax is set up so that if I plugged in and tuned it, General Motors would should it down over the air. I would have to pay to get it towed to the dealer to get it restarted. And erase the program also void warranty.

 

[DenCruz]

Dang. The fact that GM can without any notice "shut down" a vehicle "over the air" any time they feel a tickle up their butt makes any issues the SC is having pale by comparison.

Imagine driving down the highway at 75mph telling your friend how you just tuned your GM vehicle and they "shut down" the car at that moment with traffic all around you.

And for the pleasure of GM risking your life and all your passengers without notice, you then get to pay to have it towed.
Lets pray you were not on the way to the hospital when GM decided they did not like you anymore.

 

[Tedsky18045]

Dang. The fact that GM can without any notice "shut down" a vehicle "over the air" any time they feel a tickle up their butt makes any issues the SC is having pale by comparison.

Imagine driving down the highway at 75mph telling your friend how you just tuned your GM vehicle and they "shut down" the car at that moment with traffic all around you.

And for the pleasure of GM risking your life and all your passengers without notice, you then get to pay to have it towed.
Lets pray you were not on the way to the hospital when GM decided they did not like you anymore.

Well I don't plan on tuning it. Stock is like 450hp and 910 ft lbs of torque so

 

[DenCruz]

That's awesome. Does not remove the fact that they have that much control. Makes almost any other car seem so much more attractive.

Big brother seems alive and well at GM.

(and seemingly has affected your desire to make any changes based on fear. They seem to be winning the 'you will not be different' challenge)

 

[Tedsky18045]

Dang. The fact that GM can without any notice "shut down" a vehicle "over the air" any time they feel a tickle up their butt makes any issues the SC is having pale by comparison.

Imagine driving down the highway at 75mph telling your friend how you just tuned your GM vehicle and they "shut down" the car at that moment with traffic all around you.

And for the pleasure of GM risking your life and all your passengers without notice, you then get to pay to have it towed.
Lets pray you were not on the way to the hospital when GM decided they did not like you anymore.

Also figure they are smart enough to do it so that when I were to shut down the next time. After that no start....