Hyundai as had two years to correct their manual and they haven't. As far as that Youtube Video he didn' t clear up anything since he couldn't get Hyundai provide him with any documentation of clarification as of the time he did this video and wrote an article on it. I know what makes sense but that is no guarantee from Hyundai.
Tell Hyundai to get their "stuff" together
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Why not show the warning that is right next to the example that is in the manual? That warning needs a ton of clarification.
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All the info I need and all they need to say - max load capacity is right there on the drivers door jamb for all trucks… I don’t see the confusion.. This DOT mandated information over rides any owners manual…
I don’t normally engage in this manner, but you are a clear example of someone who has not used “common sense”. I also am weary of the people that are so “frightened” about following anything they see written down in a manual lest they….GASPPPP “invalidate their warranty”. Do you think Hyundai is going to ask if you were 1 lb over some random (and incorrect I might add) weight specification, when your DCT blows up….or your engine has an issue…or your catalytic converter fails??
Someone on this Forum challenged an assertion I made about oil viscosity….and used “The Manual” as their reliable, all knowing source…all the while knowing that Hyundai doesn’t follow their manual when it comes to Dealer Oil Changes! In fact, you have to pay them to use the ”specified oil”! Geeezes. Is Hyundai “up in arms” that the Dealers aren’t following the “Holy Manual”?
Of course not. Will they invalidate the warranty claims on each of these cars? Of course not!
This “weight capacity” example is even more ignorant than the oil arguments! Because…according to all standards of practice, and all the weight estimations that use GVWR and Payload Capacities….etc etc…common sense (so **** uncommon) would point one to the established mathematical methods that have been used to determine these things for decades! Those methods do not change. Period. It’s basic math! Regardless of someone writing an owners manual that got the context wrong.
Our society has become so damned ignorant that there is NO INDEPENDENT THOUGHT anymore!
If you must follow the Manual, frightened of questioning anything, or using common sense to balance or refute what you’ve read or been told….then take a look at what was posted above this post. (GTAcruz)
An excerpt of the…..wait for it…..OWNERS MANUAL!!….that clearly provides the numbers, weights, and math to determine FOR YOURSELF….what your specific loadout looks like…as well as the corresponding weights, to see if you are within the safe boundaries. Of course this requires that you think for yourself, use common sense and math, and not take everything completely at face value!
To qoute the adults in my childhood……”If Hyundai wrote in the manual, jump off a bridge…would you jump off the bridge?” Geezes.
Sorry in advance, for the rant.
Ken
This is hilarious considering the only other post I've made on this forum was talking about potentially cutting a big hole in a Santa Cruz to create a midgate. You have no idea what kind of person I am and I'm not going to judge you based on your post either. I don't own a SC yet so I have no stake in this. It's completely ridiculous seeing a bunch of people trying to dismiss what Hyundai says about the vehicle that they built.
There's a WARNING in my owners manual that I should always set my cruise control under the maximum speed limit for my country. I accidentally set it 5 mph over today. Did I void my warranty? Is my DCT going to fail?
What speed did you set it to?
All I know is if I need to haul something that is super heavy. And I have no other choice.
I hope my SC can handle it. Cuz she’s got no choice but too.
Load it up son! We going!!!
If she break…that’s on me. If she doesn’t. Congrats to me!
aloha mike
I hope my SC can handle it. Cuz she’s got no choice but too.
Load it up son! We going!!!
If she break…that’s on me. If she doesn’t. Congrats to me!
aloha mike
Highest in the US is 85, but under the advice of counsel I invoke my rights under the 1st and 5th Amendment and decline to answer!
Phew... well you are still here so we can safely say that you didn't hit 88 mph and activate the flux capacitor.
I'm sure I'm an idiot,,but the examples in the manual don't add up. Example #1- 1,400-(2x150)=1,100 it says load capacity is 650 not 1,100. Example #2 is correct 1,400-(5x172)=540. I understand why this is confusing to people they can't do the math correct in the manual. They show 5 people in example one but, use 2 as the multiplier.
Not to defend their poor manual but they are printed well in advance and in bulk. They just picked a stupid way of calculating the weight. I've also wondered if this is how much weight the brunk lid can take vs what you can actually load in the bed with all that weight distributed properly.
To me this fits under the common sense rule. If you load the bed to the point where the suspension is bottomed out then that's too much weight. If I had to guess the number is less about what the vehicle can hold and more about what it can safely handle. Too much rear weight will lift the front wheels killing the vehicle steering response which would be super dangerous.
As @GTAcruz stated: when in doubt refer to the door jam
Hopefully, to put this to rest…..
Using the symbols of 5 persons, together with the weights stated in example 1….and applying some “common sense” (yep, that again) I think I have deciphered the puzzle/error. And really guys, that’s all it is. A simple error.
5 persons (as depicted with the obvious symbol of 5 ummmm people, at a weight of 150 lbs each, subtracted from the 1400 lb payload equals…..
drum rolllllll……650 lbs. Symbols tell a story, same as words. It’s incorrectly stated, but obviously so, if one just uses some common sense and context.
What I find odd and annoying, not just here but in society in general these days….is that people KNOW that an oversight or error was made, but CLING to the error as a stated fact in order to sound “smart” or be seen as correct, when all the smart/normal people around them know/realize it’s just an oversight/error!
“But yeah…just look here…look…look, see…I’m right…you can’t haul 5 lbs, look it says it right here…look, see!!!”
I look, but all I see is ignorance and lack of….wait for it….Common Sense.
Ohhhhh how I wish the Owners Manual said, “Jump off a tall bridge or your warranty will be voided”
And frankly, given the several hundred page owners manuals these days, I for one….am not surprised there are a few errors.
They are trying to give examples because owners never check the door jamb data plates they way they should. People don’t care to learn what GVWR, etc etc….
It is only a 4000 lb bullet traveling down the road…who cares about such trivial things lol.
Heck people air their tires up to the max pressure on the sidewall of their tires….never knowing the car was engineered to have “x“ amount of air pressure in the tires as part of the overall suspension of the car! Where would they find this crucial specification? Door jamb.
Sighhhh….are we still talking about this? 😅
Ken
Speaking of errors......
Evidentally, we still are, but thanks for your long drawn out explanation of the obvious, I am now enlightened.
Funny.
Seems to me if it were, “obvious”, this thread wouldn’t exist, let alone 37 posts.
Obviously…it wasn’t obvious.
Ken
You are absolutely correct, we will try to keep future posts to a minimum. No need to discuss anything more after you have given the absolute answer.
You can not dismiss the 661lb. warning in the 2022 & 2023 manual. For safety and warranty reasons. As Hyundai Consumer Affairs did me, when I asked about it.
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