[Cruz'n]

That freaked me out, when I scrolled on my phone I thought that was list of towing related features that th3 Cruz was going to have.

I was always aware of them on the Maverick. It would be so nice to have such a list for the Cruz...

 

[JMII]

I was always aware of them on the Maverick. It would be so nice to have such a list for the Cruz...

For sure. So either the SC is over built and doesn’t need this stuff or Hyundai has no clue the type of abuse towing creates. Glad there is a 10 year warranty.

 

[Jim 99]

Just thinking out loud, for example, if you design and manufacture the radiator a little oversize, it could accommodate the additional load of towing. One part can cover both normal and towing capacity. Less parts to stock and inventory, simpler assembly line. Maybe more cost effective than designing and manufacturing two different parts. The KISS principle. Maybe just build towing capacity into the few necessary parts rather than build a normal vehicle and a towing capable vehicle.

 

[Cruz'n]

That does make sense considering the base model has a 3500lb capacity. So you are probably right in that its "internals" are pre-designed to tow.

The issue most of us have is that it cant tow more than 1500lbs without trailer brakes, turbo or not.

It would be great to see a properly, fully documented, "here is what you need to tow to capacity".

Like the Ford 4K package.

 

[JMII]

The issue most of us have is that it cant tow more than 1500lbs without trailer brakes, turbo or not.

I wonder how much of that is CYA by the lawyers. My trailer has no brakes and my 20 year Dakota has rear drums yet still manages fine with approximately 2,500lb stacked behind it. Granted I’m in ruler flat FL which feels like cheating.

 

[Cruz'n]

A lot.

 

[SantaCruz'n]

I was looking under the Santa Cruz. In the compartment under the driver side rear wheel well is a pig tail. I am assuming it is the

plug and play trailer wiring harness. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

[ToadVine]

Wait... is that a Mojave Sand? (Kinda hard to tell from your profile pic.)

 

[LittleBokey]

I was looking under the Santa Cruz. In the compartment under the driver side rear wheel well is a pig tail. I am assuming it is the View attachment 1360 plug and play trailer wiring harness. Has anyone else noticed this?

Yes... that is where it goes according to the install instructions

 

[SantaCruz'n]

Wait... is that a Mojave Sand? (Kinda hard to tell from your profile pic.)

Mine is the Black. I think the black and white setting on my phone when I took the picture in sunset may have made it look different.

 

[Jcar4331]

In the above video towards the end he says that the Limited is pre-wired for a 7 wire in the lower models were pre-wired for a 3 wire.

 

[Cruz'n]

Good to see that plug SantaCruzn. That should be for a trailer brake control at the dash.

Bokey, I dont think that jives with what you posted? What the pdf shows is the 4 pin wiring at the hitch.

But i'm prone to missing even simple things.

 

[LittleBokey]

Good to see that plug SantaCruzn. That should be for a trailer brake control at the dash.

Bokey, I dont think that jives with what you posted? What the pdf shows is the 4 pin wiring at the hitch.

But i'm prone to missing even simple things.

See image 4. 4 and 7 both plug in there. But I would add, that should be the spot to add a break controller as well. The controller modifies the signal to trigger the trailer breaks (adjustable by voltage). The controller is basically a pass through for some pins... other pins have their signal modified when you break. Since there is no 3rd party controllers, they don't show any of that info yet. There is a BT controller that does the same thing, but plugs into the 7 pin plug near the hitch.

For every recent controller I have installed, there is a cable where one end goes into the controller, the other end is a "T" connector. That "T" connector goes between the factory plug and the cable, which runs to the bumper.

Hard to know 100% until a 3rd party controller comes out. I am curious if they left a way to run the controller end to the inside of the cab to be mounted. Dodge is same, but it plugs in under the dash. That makes is easy to mount the controller under the dash. Is there any plugs or holes near it where that can happen?

 

[Cruz'n]

I recently had a brand new Subaru Ascent, it came equipped, from the factory with a plug inside the dash on the left side where the driver's knee is. Just had to pop open the fuse box or look underneith.

I had the dealer install a Subaru hitch that came with a 7 pin attached to the hitch.

All I needed to do was plug in my Tekonsha brake controller to that plug in the dash. The controller sat nicely in a front cubby, though many Ascent owners screwed the brake controller into the fuse box cover. A $10.00 replacement part, if they wanted to go back to 'stock'.

On the trailer/hitch side, all I had to do was plug the trailer's 7 pin male/out cable to the hitch mounted 7 pin female in.

Hoping this is how it will go with the Cruz.

 

[JMII]

This is not that complicated... below are the facts as we know them currently -

#1 all SC models are pre-wired for a trailer harness. The pig tail pictured above allows for adding such a harness, its totally plug-n-play, anyone who can use zip ties can do this job.

#2 the currently available 4 pin harness just runs the trailer's lights. If your trailer's weight is under the limit, OR your state doesn't require trailer brakes, OR if your trailer has no brakes (like mine) your good to go at this point.

#3 if for any reason #2 doesn't apply to you then you need a 7 pin connector plus a brake controller. This gives you the extra wires needed to control the trailer brakes plus power the trailer lights.

#4 the 7 pin harness is not available yet from Hyundai, but the part is coming (part# K5F61AU400) welcome to owning a brand new vehicle with limited support and parts during its launch. However a Kia part (#S9F67-AC500) is available that appears to fit. This should be plug-n-play.

#5 you can convert a 4 pin to 7 pin via an aftermarket plug-n-play harness. Head off to Amazon and you'll find plenty, just make sure its not just an adapter but actually has the wires required to install #6. For example this one: Amazon.com: CURT 57672 Dual-Output 4-Way Flat Vehicle-Side to 7-Way RV Blade Trailer Wiring Adapter , Black: Automotive

#6 to actually control the trailer brakes with the 7 pin you need a separate brake controller. This is a little black box that does the magic. Hyundai not does make any such part so it will have to come from the aftermarket.

#7 normally the brake controller is wired under the dash with a knob of some kind to adjust the sensitivity and power of the brakes. We don't know if these wires are available under the dash on the SC yet.

#8 to eliminate the problem of #7 you can get a wireless controller.

#9 no reason to reinvent the wheel as Hyundai Palisade owners went thru this 7 pin brake controller pain already, they've done all the homework for us, follow their advice: 2021 7-pin harness

If I'm wrong (happens all the time, just ask my wife) then please correct me and I'll edit this post.

 

[ToadVine]

... #6 to actually control the trailer brakes with the 7 pin you need a separate brake controller. This is a little black box that does the magic. Hyundai does NOT make any such part so it will have to come from the aftermarket.

Insert "not".

Great info.

 

[JMII]

Insert "not".

Great info.

Thanks... I fixed it.

 

[JMII]

Behold the glory of the 7 pin trailer harness at 3:24 in the following video...

 

[Cruz'n]

Would love to see, via the official release of test drive reviews next week, a Cruz was outfitted to be tested towing up near its marketed max.

I understand what a 7 pin looks like.
I want to see it installed and in use along with a brake controller towing something more than unbraked max (1650lbs i think).

With TFL, Straight Pipes, Motortrend, MotoringTV etc at the helm.

I get the sense we will only see very VERY light duty tow reviews. Like a jetski, dirtbike or two.

 

[SC-421]

I get the sense we will only see very VERY light duty tow reviews. Like a jetski, dirtbike or two.

I'd like to be able to tow my car to the track. It's street legal but it's not practical to dive to other the out of town tracks. Even at 5000# it seems like it will be close but I don't have any experience in towing. My car is currently about about 2750# and a lightweight hauler is about 1500#. I saw an even lighter trailer at 1060# and while the bed dimensions are big enough, it's SUPER close. I'm guessing that I should be looking at a trailer with a bit of room to spare. If anyone is knowledgeable in towing cars, I'd appreciate any information you have to share.