[LZR TX]

I'll be honest, I would not go to uHaul for a harness install. Not after watching them use vampire splices to wire in the connector for mom's truck (which admittedly was a 70s model, but still). I wouldn't be surprised if all their install gear was a bucket of the things, and a bunch of loose four- pin pigtails.

Also, I just searched the Curt part number for the 7-pin, and I think it's actually 56466.

Which means the shopping list, if you're going all Curt, is:

• 56466 (7-pin)
• 51170 (Spectrum brake controller)
• 13486 (hitch)
• 51529 (? brake controller power & signal wires?)

@jfetter After seeing the Spectrum on your dash (twice now), that's definitely what I'm going to go with. That and I don't really like wireless stuff- it feels like it adds two more failure points (loss of signal and battery power).

I'll go the a trailer place and they will know if I need any 4pin/7pin adapter

 

[JMII]

there are no mechanical or structural differences between the 2023 and 2024 year models.

This +1000

I have no idea why people can't see this for what it is... an obvious TYPO this is as bad as the people who refuse to get past the whole 4 pin vs 7 pin problem. Occam's Razor applies to both: simple logic provides the answers, so stop over thinking it.

 

[Chabe562]

A lot of discussion about the towing capabilities as well as parts and accessories needed to tow with a Santa Cruz.

So whether you have naturally aspirated Cruz, rated for 3500lb towing or a Turbo and its 5,000lb rating, lets talk towing here!

Hoping to see updates on a 7 pin connection becoming available. As well as if there will be a plug and play input for an external brake controller.

Anyone else planning on towing?

If so, post up pics and discuss here!

If you research you can tow up to 5,000 pounds AWD non trubo. How every my trailer is about 2,800 dry weight and 3,300 loaded. I would not try 5,000 non turbo. I feel I am maxed out.

 

[jfetter]

If you research you can tow up to 5,000 pounds AWD non turbo...

I don't see where the AWD non-turbo can tow 5,000 lbs., is that what you meant to say?

Jack

 

[Chabe562]

 

[Chabe562]

 

[jfetter]

What I posted is directly out of the 2022 manual, what is the source for the above information?

Jack

 

[jfetter]

From what I can tell, I think a lot of the dealers (where this different information from the manual comes from), are equating AWD alone with being capable of towing 5,000 lbs., versus AWD AND turbo, per the manual (and specs I can find on Motor Trend, etc.). Not sure which is right, but I would tend to defer to the manual...

Jack

 

[jbsx]

2022 2.5L with AWB and Trailer Brakes and I have all that on mine. Like I said I don't think it will tow 5,000 that 3,500 with AWD and trailer brakes would be the limit I would tow.

Weight limit from the manual is 3500 pounds on the non turbo.
Google is NOT your friend

 

[JMII]

The towing weight limits are clearly defined in the manual as posted by @jfetter - ignore clueless dealers or Google summaries.

The turbo requirement makes perfect sense as the NA engine is likely not going to have enough power to achieve the SAE J2807 towing standards as defined: https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/1502-sae-j2807-tow-tests-the-standard/ I have attached the spec from 2016, to get the lastest version you have to buy it.

Sadly Hyundai has never said IF the SC passes SAE J2807 or not. Part of the spec includes frontal area which Hyundai has never mentioned. However Ford does list the frontal area limits for the Maverick because (news flash) Ford knows way more about towing then Hyundai. This is important because frontal area (drag) plays a major role in the overall workload on the tow vehicle. The weight limit is more about the controlling the mass behind you. In that regard even a small vehicle can tow a huge load like when a Tundra once towed the Space Shuttle. Point is go slow enough on level ground and you can pretty much two anything. Heck I can push my 2,500lb trailer down the street using just my body.

I don't understand why AWD would be needed to reach the 5,000lb limit. HTRAC is pretty limited (under 37 MPH) and only 50% torque split so how this yeilds another 1,500lb is a mystery. I can only assume its some kind of saftey margin since front wheel traction becomes an issue as you add rear weight.

 

[jfetter]

I suspect the AWD is so folks don't get stuck often on boat ramps, while their front wheels spin with the reduced weight (shifted to the rear), maybe they just feel they are doing folks a favor?

Jack

 

[Tater]

I suspect the AWD is so folks don't get stuck often on boat ramps, while their front wheels spin with the reduced weight (shifted to the rear), maybe they just feel they are doing folks a favor?

Jack

The very reason I required AWD/4WD and ended up with an SC.

 

[jfetter]

Ditto!

Jack

 

[Sericus]

Has anyone towed another vehicle? I'm new to trucks and towing, have the 23 Turbo. Was told by Uhaul I wouldn't be able to tow a 23 Santa Fe with a tow dolly because my cruz didn't weigh enough?

Does this make sense?

 

[Nagrom]

U Haul has a policy on their tow dollies that says the towing vehicle must weigh 750lbs(the weight of the dolly) more than the towed vehicle.

 

[Akfan]

They are simply clueless and should have hired any of the big three to do their brochures.

I don't see where the AWD non-turbo can tow 5,000 lbs., is that what you meant to say?

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Jack

I like how they think 3 150 lb'ers are going to be riding in the back....


It makes no sense from any angle. The awd is heavier...why does it have more tow. The F150/1500 has more payload in reg cab 2wd than any other option.

The passengers are 150lb and have 15 lb cargo each. Yet the tow and payload is reduced by only the 150 lb per person.... not the awd system NOR the 15 lb of cargo....

Either way all vehicles are conservative. If you want to tow then go for it. Toyota advertises an 8k load but tows 300k lb in a commercial. Go slow, have brakes and use your head.

There are a thousand half ton trucks dawdling all over the road with campers under their max but light on the hitch... frontal areas bigger than a ton is supposed to pull lol.there are just as many pulling mowers amd atv and such on the rear of their trailer with the front tires barely hitting the high spots on the road.

A vehicle thats safe to run 70 pulling 5k down the highway is far more safe pulling 7500 lb at 45 than max at 80 anyway. Imo

 

[Akfan]

U Haul has a policy on their tow dollies that says the towing vehicle must weigh 750lbs(the weight of the dolly) more than the towed vehicle.

Tow dolly are a special class of dangerous and infuriating. Lol. Most have no brake...the towed vehicle behave more like a 4 wheeled utility trailer than a real highway trailer and good forbid you need to reverse. Lol

 

[Sericus]

Tow dolly are a special class of dangerous and infuriating. Lol. Most have no brake...the towed vehicle behave more like a 4 wheeled utility trailer than a real highway trailer and good forbid you need to reverse. Lol

So it would be doable, but highly discouraged? We ended up just driving both back from the beach.

Would there be a safe way to tow Santa fe with the Santa Cruz?

 

[Akfan]

So it would be doable, but highly discouraged? We ended up just driving both back from the beach.

Would there be a safe way to tow Santa fe with the Santa Cruz?

If the dollie has surge brakes then its fine. The fe is under 4k lb. No more than a cruz. An f150 that weighs 4500 lb is rated to tow 10k. Any road tractor is pulling more lb than it weighs. And the 4k plus dolly is under your 5k limit. A fe on a dollie is safer than a lot of the trailer I see on here. Far less frontal area and the hitch weight with a dollie is far less

If it doesn't have brakes then conventional wisdom would say no, you may not stop it.

Your call though.

And plot your course carefully. I back everything from 10 foot utility to 38 foot reefers. Ive yet to find anything harder to do anything with than a car on a dolly. Lol

 

[Alphabeta]

Has anyone towed another vehicle? I'm new to trucks and towing, have the 23 Turbo. Was told by Uhaul I wouldn't be able to tow a 23 Santa Fe with a tow dolly because my cruz didn't weigh enough?

Does this make sense?

UHaul makes their own rules - often related to the weight of the tow vehicle that makes no sense to me. The odd things is that many of the tow specs are for the USA, but the same car in Canada or EU is "allowed" to tow much more.