[GTAcruz]

That makes NO sense since nothing related to the vehicles body changed between '22 and '24. I would assume this is some kind of typo or misrepresentation of another spec.

Certainly is a mistake… don’t know about the US manual, but Canadian owners manual have a lot of cut and paste from the Tucson and Santa Fe…

 

[danco]

Looking for a reason to BUY the 2024 SC? I can now give you a huge reason NOT to buy it, check this page from the 2024 SC manual (6-73), note the new TONGUE WEIGHT LIMIT (making this truck now mostly useless as a tow vehicle)...

It says that in the PDF version, but my printed 2024 Owner's Manual doesn't have that tongue load chart in it. It does say, on the page before, that the "trailer tongue should weigh a maximum of 10% of the total loaded trailer weight"...

So, typo or editing error...

 

[Nagrom]

Is the sky falling or not?

 

[GaryH]

It fell earlier, you just missed it.

 

[jbsx]

Just step over it and move on

 

[jfetter]

I feel we should wait for the confirmation from Hyundai (not that I honestly have a horse in this race, I own a 2022 SC Limited, but if I were in the market, this would have to be confirmed). Of course, the printed manual should take precedence, but this isn't a position one would like to be in, opposing limits in two different manuals, which one "wins" out?

Jack

 

[Sparkland]

Just because something is on the written page does not make it trustworthy. Take for example this screenshot of the pricing of the new SC's at Arapahoe Hyundai in Denver - $80K for a new SC. The dealer will advertise "Save $40K on a new Santa Cruz" and then sell them at MSRP.

 

[jfetter]

True, but if you do something you are libel for and your defense in court is "I ignored the manual", you're likely going to lose. I'm not one to freak out but I also don't think knowing which manual is correct is too much to ask. I guarantee if one manual said you can tow 7,500 lbs., Hyundai would fix it tomorrow. This error doesn't really affect them negatively or create a liability, as the lighter misprint (assumption yes, but pretty safe to assume), is LESS than the actual rating...

Jack

 

[danco]

Just because something is on the written page does not make it trustworthy. Take for example this screenshot of the pricing of the new SC's at Arapahoe Hyundai in Denver - $80K for a new SC.

Somebody failed Math...
I'd get a Limited, and save $37,000 over the Night edition!

 

[jerika]

Just a follow-up from my original post -- I ended up getting the blue 2022 Santa Cruz. 😊 It was a good price but does have a number of small issues I'll need to get fixed. I'm really impressed with it so far, very glad I got the limited trim (and the blue color!).

Thank you all for the help, info, and thoughts!

 

[Soul Sage]

I feel like the 2022 Hyundai Santa Cruz would hold its value more because it's the first time Hyundai introduced the Santa Cruz and it's their first truck they made. It's kind of like getting the first year Charizard Pokemon card which is still the most sought after Charizard card simply cause it's the first and collectors love that. In 20 years from now, I believe the Santa Cruz would still be popular and would stick out with collectors, just like how the El Camino is a classic that defines those years it came out and is a popular choice for antique collectors.

 

[JMII]

I feel like the 2022 Hyundai Santa Cruz would hold its value more because it's the first time Hyundai introduced the Santa Cruz and it's their first truck they made.

Your in dream land. Its a mass produced Hyundai, not a hand-built 1 of 300 Ferrari. In 20 years the SC will be considered an oddity like the Subaru Brat.

 

[Nagrom]

Your in dream land. Its a mass produced Hyundai, not a hand-built 1 of 300 Ferrari. In 20 years the SC will be considered an oddity like the Subaru Brat.

I think you're right, but have you seen what a clean brat brings in these days?

 

[Soul Sage]

Your in dream land. Its a mass produced Hyundai, not a hand-built 1 of 300 Ferrari. In 20 years the SC will be considered an oddity like the Subaru Brat.

You're wrong. I seen other mass produced cars and trucks that are considered antiques. Albeit, with modifications. There were cars that were absolute trash that had very little production. The Kandi K27 car is proof of that. Very limited in production but it's because it's a terrible vehicle. Mustangs are highly mass produced and still seen as a car collectors choice, as it represents those older times. And the Santa Cruz doesn't even resemble the poorly engineered and illegal Subaru Brat. It's ugly in comparison to the Santa Cruz. A better comparison would be the El Camino, as the companies took pride in those, while the Subaru Brat was an embarrassment to Subuaru, even the company admitted that. I doubt that Hyundai is embarrassed by the Santa Cruz. In fact, Hyundai is proud of releasing the Santa Cruz.

 

[JMII]

I think you're right, but have you seen what a clean brat brings in these days?

Cars that were considered only good for scrap are worth $10k today... its crazy. Not many people saved Brats and thier uniquness means they will always command a bit more then an average vehicle. Only ones in perfect condition get real money, most nice ones sell for about thier original MSRP and ones that are rusted (I assume that is most of them) are only worth 1/2 that. Guess that is still pretty good for an old Subie.

Mustangs are highly mass produced and still seen as a car collectors choice, as it represents those older times.

Those older Mustangs were super popular from the get go. The El Camino was unique in being a muscle car + truck. Both of these vehicles are considered collectable now because they were hot ticket items back in their day and were expensive in the rare configurations that became collector items. They were cars all the cool kids wanted, but nobody is putting posters of SC on thier wall, they just aren't that desirable. The SC was only hot when production first started and there were hard to get.

All the SC has going for it could be the first in the current generations of truck based CUVs. However with the EV rush I'd say a Rivian has a much better chance of become a future classic. Its not like Ford Sport Tracs are worth alot these days either. Give me example of collectable Hyundai. Even Hyundai's first RWD sports car, the Genesis hasn't gone up in value a decade later.

Barrett Jackson has made people think everything is some highly desired collectable. I had a 2003 350Z and its worth only 20-60% of its orginal value (depending on model and condition of course) after 20 years and I think everyone would agree the Nissan Z has a much stronger and more loyal following then the SC. Maybe in 30 years original 350Z values will go up when the idea of V6, RWD, stick shift sports car is considered "vintage".

Also limited production does not equal valuable, because owned a Volvo C30... they were not desireable back in 2007 and still not desireable. Sure you can cherry pick a few vehicles here and there but if your holding onto the idea that an '22 SC will somehow hold its value over the next 10 or 20 years I've got some dry land to sell to you in the Everglades.

 

[Soul Sage]

Cars that were considered only good for scrap are worth $10k today... its crazy. Not many people saved Brats and thier uniquness means they will always command a bit more then an average vehicle. Only ones in perfect condition get real money, most nice ones sell for about thier original MSRP and ones that are rusted (I assume that is most of them) are only worth 1/2 that. Guess that is still pretty good for an old Subie.



Those older Mustangs were super popular from the get go. The El Camino was unique in being a muscle car + truck. Both of these vehicles are considered collectable now because they were hot ticket items back in their day and were expensive in the rare configurations that became collector items. They were cars all the cool kids wanted, but nobody is putting posters of SC on thier wall, they just aren't that desirable. The SC was only hot when production first started and there were hard to get.

All the SC has going for it could be the first in the current generations of truck based CUVs. However with the EV rush I'd say a Rivian has a much better chance of become a future classic. Its not like Ford Sport Tracs are worth alot these days either. Give me example of collectable Hyundai. Even Hyundai's first RWD sports car, the Genesis hasn't gone up in value a decade later.

Barrett Jackson has made people think everything is some highly desired collectable. I had a 2003 350Z and its worth only 20-60% of its orginal value (depending on model and condition of course) after 20 years and I think everyone would agree the Nissan Z has a much stronger and more loyal following then the SC. Maybe in 30 years original 350Z values will go up when the idea of V6, RWD, stick shift sports car is considered "vintage".

Also limited production does not equal valuable, because owned a Volvo C30... they were not desireable back in 2007 and still not desireable. Sure you can cherry pick a few vehicles here and there but if your holding onto the idea that an '22 SC will somehow hold its value over the next 10 or 20 years I've got some dry land to sell to you in the Everglades.

It's not like the Santa Cruz is an economy vehicle. The way you talk about it makes it sound like it is. The Santa Cruz has the potential to be sought after. It's Hyundai's first truck and it's unique and is more of a lifestyle kind of vehicle than a fleet vehicle.

 

[GTAcruz]

It's not like the Santa Cruz is an economy vehicle. The way you talk about it makes it sound like it is. The Santa Cruz has the potential to be sought after. It's Hyundai's first truck and it's unique and is more of a lifestyle kind of vehicle than a fleet vehicle.

Hyundai has been making pick-ups for decades - just not in North America
The SE trim is certainly considered as an entry level vehicle
Considering the average vehicle selling price is approaching $50,000 these days - even the top trim is below average selling price.
Life style vehicle is what marketing department is calling it, it’s essentially just a SUV with a small bed…
It may appeal to a small group in the future - assuming it lasts that long

 

[Soul Sage]

Hyundai has been making pick-ups for decades - just not in North America
The SE trim is certainly considered as an entry level vehicle
Considering the average vehicle selling price is approaching $50,000 these days - even the top trim is below average selling price.
Life style vehicle is what marketing department is calling it, it’s essentially just a SUV with a small bed…
It may appeal to a small group in the future - assuming it lasts that long

Anything can be marketed. And SUV with a small bed? So what? That's the appeal! Maybe you guys are too blind to see it. For people that own the Santa Cruz is doesn't sound like you want to keep it for long. Maybe you should be like everyone else and buy a Toyota Tacoma instead.

 

[GTAcruz]

Anything can be marketed. And SUV with a small bed? So what? That's the appeal! Maybe you guys are too blind to see it. For people that own the Santa Cruz is doesn't sound like you want to keep it for long. Maybe you should be like everyone else and buy a Toyota Tacoma instead.

Sorry, but I’m not a Hyundai fan boy… also, just cause I or anyone can be critical does not mean, we can’t enjoy our SC.

And why would I replace it for a Tacoma? (2024 next generation Taco is actually, very nice) - if I were to replace it, it likely be another SUV…

 

[JMII]

I love my SC, its basically the perfect vehicle for me and I plan on keeping it for at least 10 years. However at the same time Hyundai has screwed many things up with this vehicle. My last truck (a Dodge Dakota) lasted 20 years and it was still fine when I sold it. The SC is superior in almost every way which is why I bought one. However my feelings for a vehicle or how long it lasts has nothing to do with its value in the automotive market which represents a much wider audience. In that light the SC is typical and basically average despite having a unique configuration.