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I recently sold my SC (only owned for approx.6 weeks) The SC Ltd. has many attributes that I really enjoyed and appreciated . The Engine/tranny combo is fantastic and fun to drive. The driver assist stuff was exceptional......etc. Why did I sell? I simply could not get comfortable. I cannot say why but it gave me a terrible backache but others say it is fantastic....just the way it is. I wanted to like the SC but knew for me it was not going to work. I am now looking to purchase a Ridgeline simply because of the added hip and shoulder specs compared to the SC. I am 6 ft. 186 lbs but do have wide shoulders for what that info is worth. The RL is not as engaging to drive as the SC and the tech is behind the SC but comfort is paramount to me. I wish I could rent a RL for a week to truly test drive.
Go test drive a ridgeline, you will be pleased with the smooth as butter ride. I bought a SC limited December 2021 loved it, fast, awesome handling, great safety tech, but when I seen my wife and 10 month old in the back they looked way too cramped and what's with no Armrest in the back seat. I reluctantly traded in my SC for a honda ridgeline rtl-e hpd package, 49,360 msrp and the general manager sold it to me for 41,000 great fit and finish older tech but I can live with it. Only one camera (backup) but I'll be more careful, plus very easy to see out of, awesome storage space in the trunk, swing open tailgate is awesome and the back seats fold up and give you lots of space. They wife said she liked the back seats and could see lots very open. Stadium seating in the back so your rear passengers can see more. The ridgeline on the road is basically like driving a vehicle and virtually no stress and calm. It is very neutral, takes curves great, rides like my 1977 Olds cutlass, and when you go for at least an hour or two drive it's like sitting on the couch, very comfortable, and when you step on the gas, man that vtech opens up and sounds good. To me the ridgeline has a better awd system than the SC it's very neutral and feels like all 4 tires pull even, the SC feels like front wheel drive predominantly until you stomp on the gas. I love the looks of the SC, like something out of the future great fit and finish and quality but for me a little more space and storage room and very comfortable inside I went for the Ridgeline. I still miss my SC but the ridgelines ride comfort and storage and no turbo fits us better. One way I look at it, the SC is wanting to be driven hard and with lots of drama,haha but the ridgeline doesn't care how hour day goes, great day at work or a really hectic day, when you drive the ridgeline it's relaxing and stress free no matter how your day is going. Check a honda dealer amd they may rent a ridgeline that they use for customers that leave their cars for warranty work. Or testdrive one. I think you will like it. I hope this helps you with your decision. Good luck.
 
Idk. From what I see in my shop... People are more likely to have their belt changed every 150k miles than ever touching a chain. Ive seen more timing chain/ tensioner issues over the past 20 years in the shop than I have belt issues. People learned to maintain belts. Chains not so much. Prior to 2000 or so it was incredibly common to have vehicle come in with a broken belt and chewed up valves. If your keeping the vehicle 200-300k miles (looking at Toyota/ Honda/ gm truck and Ford truck mostly since that's about all I see in the shop with 300+) then the chain will cost you more than the belt unless you just let it go till it breaks. It's far cheaper to replace the belt 2x in 300k miles than it is to do the chain/ tensioner and all the seals that go with that one time. If your a 150k-200k mile person than yes chains are far better.

Nowdays belt driven oil pumps and transmissions are pretty common too.
I could drive this Santa Cruz, 250,000 miles and never have to change the chain, unless the chains guide fail. Even then, I should be able to hear, before breakage. On the Ridgeline, I must replace the belt two times before that. $$$$$, time and inconvenience.
 
Since we are discussing what the Santa Fe has that the Ridgeline doesn't - and vice versa - I have a question? Does Honda offer anything like MyHyundai or Hyundai Digital Key? If they do - how does it compare?
 
Agree the RL has no personality BUT is comfortable.
This has sadly become a Honda trait, just like Toyota. I guess this makes sense since most (like my SIL who has an Accord) just want an home-to-office and back transportation appliance that dulls the driving experience down to the point of it being mostly forgettable. However life's too short to drive such boring things. While the original RL was not attractive looking, at least it was unique. The 2nd gen is such a generic truck shape it seems uninspired.
 
I could drive this Santa Cruz, 250,000 miles and never have to change the chain, unless the chains guide fail. Even then, I should be able to hear, before breakage. On the Ridgeline, I must replace the belt two times before that. $$$$$, time and inconvenience.

Look at any data ever collected..... statistically your far more likely to get 250k on the Honda with the factory belt than anywhere near that in a hyundai regardless. Lol. So while I see the point of the post its basically "one part on the entire car will outlast one part on that entire car". Ive changed rattling chains on probably 2000 vehicles. Usually between 200-250k. Almost entirely Toyota but a few Ford V8s make it to 300k as well. The chain runs in oil so you have to take off far more parts and deal with sealing and gaskets, plus hydraulic chain tensioner and anti rattle guards. So while I despise a belt, they are easy to change and run dry. Id take a chain anyday over a belt BUT id expect a Toyota (they transitioned to chains in the v6 around 2010ish and the 4s later but I don't think any have a belt now) or Honda with a belt to make it over 200k far more often than a hyundai with any timing set. Even a gear drive. And there is an infinite amount of data to back that up, not just my opinion. The one chain on the Hyundai will cost more than 4 belt jobs on the Honda if the Hyundai does ever get one. Just a chain and tensioner alone will cost far more, even without sealing it up and labor

And I'm a 20+ year Honda hater. But facts and data are facts and data. Never liked Toyota either. But I have a full shop and can fix the stupid things that fail on BMW and Jeep and other fun cars. I don't recommend them to ANYONE.
 
I had a 2017 Ridgeline RTL-E before it was totaled. All around nice vehicle. But it drives like a bus. A few little things I wish it had and most I resolved with after market parts. The two way tail gate was great And useful frequently. It does have a somewhat decent passive load height management. I put 1500 pounds of landscape stone and other items many many times and it barely sank an inch. Compared to the SC Limited though I found it’s two different vehicles no matter what specs say. SC drives like a car.
I could put 15 bags of mineral wool insulation into the Ridgeline (2 bags in back seat) I can only put 7 in SC. Keep in mind the Ridgeline is much wider. I could drive down a farm gravel road and the ride was quiet and smooth, the SC is more of a city driver. But the SC is easier to drive and park. The 5 features I still miss - tailgate versatility, walk away auto lock, cargo capacity, power sliding rear window, rear under seat storage and ability to flip up seats. Otherwise SC is great…but I’d be lying if i don’t think i should have bought another Ridgeline every time I see one at Home Depot or Menards as I struggle to get large items to fit And still have to tie it down where it was rarely necessary in the Ridgeline
 
I will take this Santa Cruz and its chain drive over 200,000 miles without a chain breakage or tensioner replacement vs a breaking of a belt ( which I have seen numerous times ) without any warning and no sign or sound ahead of time. Change that belt every 100,000 miles, twice, or be regretful. No Thanks. No regrets, here. Also, BMW and a few others are notorious for breakage at or before 100,000 miles. Oh wait...... it is change that belt at 60,000 miles under extreme driving conditions, like excessive heat, cold, towing etc. 70,000 under normal driving conditions. For a Honda Ridgeline. And a water pump replacement when the belt is changed. Like I said. More $$$, time and inconvenience with the Honda Ridgeline.
 
Glad this topic surfaced! For a couple of years I just knew I was going to buy the Honda Ridgeline RTL to replace my aging full size Chevy. I saw the SC when we were buying my wife's Santa Fe and I was hooked. Here a couple of comparisons and facts I have on paper. Some items - like the Driver Alert Monitoring - I could care less about! If someone see's an error - please free to let me know and I will make a change or retraction. I did not list price, warranty comparisons - as these issues have already been mentioned so many times.

  • Santa Cruz offers Tailgate Assist to help open and close the heavy tailgate. This damping type feature may prevent the tailgate from falling and possibly injuring a child. This feature also assists in ease of closing of the tailgate. The Ridgeline does not offer this.
  • Santa Cruz offers a push-button tail-gate open on the digital remote. Honda Ridgeline does not offer this
  • The rear bumper of the Santa Cruz offers a rear cargo step which allows for much easier access to the cargo area. Ridgeline does not offer this.
  • Due to design - ground clearance on the Ridgeline is considered low for a pickup, 7.64” off the ground. The Santa Cruz is an inch higher at 8.6” off the ground.
  • Santa Cruz offers Driver Alert Monitoring. This safety feature monitors the driver’s inattentiveness and sounds a warning and visually shows a message that the driver should consider taking a break. Honda Ridgeline does not offer that.
  • Hyundai Santa Cruz offers BlueLink - free for 3 years. This is a GPS receiver and a cellular system to remotely unlock your doors, keep track of your car, request towing if in need or contact emergency personnel when needed. The Honda Ridgeline does not have a GPS response system.
  • Hyundai offers Roadside Assistance for 5 years unlimited mileage - 24 hours a day! Honda offers roadside assistance for 3 years or 36K miles, 24 hours a day
  • The Hyundai Ridgeline has slightly larger rotors than the Ridgeline (12.8 inches vs. 12.6 inches). The Santa Cruz has a shorter stopping distance than the Ridgeline (from 60 mph to 0 mph). Santa Cruz is 122 feet. The Ridgeline is 129 feet.
  • The Santa Cruz has standard front & rear gas-charged shocks. The Ridgeline does not offer this. The Santa Cruz has a standard automatic rear leveling suspension to keep ride height level when carrying a heavy load or towing.
  • The Santa Cruz has a slightly tighter turning radius (39.6 ft vs. 43.4 ft)
  • Santa Cruz is 1 foot, 2.5” shorter than the Ridgeline.
  • Santa Cruz has .6 inches more front headroom, .5 inch more front leg room and 1.3” more rear head room than Ridgeline
  • The Santa Cruz has a higher payload capacity than the Ridgeline (1753 lbs vs. 1583 lbs)
  • If a rear door is opened and shut (as in putting a child or animal in the back seat) - Santa Cruz will warn you to check the back seat once the engine is turned off. Honda Ridgeline does not offer this.
  • Santa Cruz power mirrors are mounted controls are mounted on the door armrest (as in most vehicles). Honda Ridgeline controls are mounted on the dash, which can be hidden by the steering wheel depending on adjustment!
rear leveling suspension to keep ride height level when carrying a heavy load or towing.
is actually incorrect for having throw 1200lbs in the bed i was nearly on the bump stops, so either they meant left to right leveling or mine just do not work .
 
Did the Ridgeline get the new for 2023 3.5 DOHC GDI like the pilot. And the 10 speed?

Mpg is still listed as 21 combined though. I drove a new pilot. Excellent smooth engine but thats modern day v8 mileage. And STILL a timing belt... no chain
The Ridgeline has not yet received the new engine now on the Pilot. When the Trailsport RL hits the streets in 2024, it will most likely receive the Pilot upgrades.
 
is actually incorrect for having throw 1200lbs in the bed i was nearly on the bump stops, so either they meant left to right leveling or mine just do not work .
Well its a passive system so it can't raise the vehicle up like having air bags. I found it doesn't do much with 250lb (10% of my 2,500lb trailer) back there. However I only get like 1 to 1.5" of squat, so its almost level. Does that means its working? or are my expectations of it being perfectly level just asking too much for such a simple system?
 
I’m surprised to hear this perspective regarding the Nivomat, self leveling shocks.
I just returned from a 500 mile round trip visit to the Oregon Coast, towing our Travel Trailer. (I will be writing a detailed account in the Official Towing Thread later)

The trailer weighs approximately 3200 lbs loaded out...So 300 plus lbs on the tongue, and three passengers in the vehicle. It settled two inches at the rear fender wells. After driving it for about 5 miles, over several speed bumps (which speeds up the process) instead of 2 inches of sag , it ended up settling at only 5/8 to 3/4 of an inch of sag. Considering the combined weight of about 3650 lbs…I was very pleasantly surprised at the effectiveness of the self leveling shocks.

Just my perspective. I will get into specifics in the Towing thread, but I was almost shocked at the positive towing experience I had. It was my first time towing this trailer with the Santa Cruz.

Ken
Can't wait to read the long version!
 
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