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Yup... you are a model parent.. you denied it, but here you are putting your morality onto a complete stranger. Well done again dad. :unsure:
Please read s l o w l y: I denied being your parent...... and thankfully so.

It is so sad that you are not being treated for your severe case of NPD.

You probably need to look it up,
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How bizarre, SmoovC & LittleBokey both joined this forum on the same day in 2021, July 18,
That and owning an SC are quite literally the ONLY things we have in common. 🤣
 
This sand box is big enough for the both of you, just don't pee on my piece
It is big enough for all of us.... assuming people play nice. ;)
 
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And yet you bought one... so full of :poop:

I own 10 brands.... And my daughter bought a cruz via mom. Not me. Id never go buy a kia/ Hyundai. I own a shop.

I listed my reasons and very few if any are subjective. The Cruz is very likely the worst truck made today. It wins in no category. Fronteir would be close behind. Then probably taco. They just don't win at anything. Taco has that Toyota name and resale though. And they are built better in several ways. Ranger isn't impressive either.

There isn't a "bad" one made today IMO. I drive them all. Work on many. Own many. They are all good. Somebody has to be worst. Everything else wins in something. Not so much for Cruz. It may handle best though. Would be close with mav just because of ride height.

The ram is the best riding truck made. All big three half tons today ride great. And the numbers are awesome. 400hp, 10k towing etc etc. And the GM and Ford have great resale.

Tundra has resale. Imo that about all. The old v8s were good but the trans weren't much. Hp was great. Today the Tundra is pretty meh.imo

Titan is dead but the resale was ok and hp was good. The v8 was solid. Trans too. Fronteir is dated but solid ish.

Ranger has decent resale. Decent reliability. I think they are stupid. Near the f150 price (and size) and just no point IMO. Same for canyon and Colorado. But both best Cruz at tow or offroad. And anything beats Hyundai for resale.

Maverick has 40+mpg. There isn't much way for anyone to beat that. No other truck is even remotely close. Most here report high 20s mpg and the Cruz is probably the second best truck for mpg. The diesel Chevy does ok too. But then your paying another dollar per gallon and the headaches that go with def.

Everybody wins at something or has redeeming qualities but Cruz. Crap dealer network. No resale. Mediocre awd. Worst history of reliability of the truck brands except maybe ram. Lowest hp of the lot and not much better mpg. Worst back seat of the lot.

Work on them and your going to see where the others are built better too.

Subjectivity I could pile on. But I'll stay objective here.
 
SC maybe the worst truck, but it's the BEST SAV! (y)

Among the class it may well be. It clearly loses in mpg to the hybrid mav BUT that's 2wd only so not much adventure. And most don't put the Honda in the class. Its usually with the midsize now where is loses at everything.

Then compared to the base mav
And base Cruz the mav is cheaper by a decent bit. BUT then the base mav tows more and has a lot more power than the more expensive base Cruz. Better back seat. Worse fit and finish. Better resale. Better network. Way faster And better mpg.

You have to compare the turbo Cruz to the base maverick to win at much anything. And then the cheapest turbo Cruz is the 40k dollar night (and 42k for awd) compared to the 25k dollar maverick turbo. To be fair if you compare the Cruz to any truck costing an extra 15k...it will get stomped. That gets you into an xl f150. Maybe an xlt or a cheaper Chevy half ton, or half way up the ram ladder. And the Cruz loses in every conceivable category except mpg and it can lose there too depending on options. And that's skipping the canyon/Ranger/fronteir/RL completely


The baja was the best (only) SAV at the time. Its actually a very comparable vehicle to the cruz. It really was a nice model. Flopped spectacularly in 4 years time.

And again worst truck, if you just think about it honestly, is hard to argue with. You have half the HP. Half the tow. 1/3 the bed payload. Yet no better mpg than half the trucks. No integrated trailer brake. No low range. The Maverick is a better "truck" in that it does have a factory hitch and trailer brake module. Plus it has 42 MPG. I drove a Festiva in the 90s that didn't get better. Lol

ESPECIALLY so if you talk base Cruz. 25 MPG rating and 190 HP. 3500 LB tow.

Ford and GM and Dodge are awesome at padding info. "BEST TOW CAPACITY AVAILABLE in a truck available in red with brown leather". Lol. Ford makes about 5 F150 a year with the heavy duty payload package. Only in reg cab. Only 8 ft bed and only 5.0. But they can say "with an available payload of 3300lb" because of it. They also sell about 2 f150 with the 3.3 gas motor. My buddy ran and owned one of the bigger Ford dealerships on the east coast for 20 years. Never saw one.... but they can say 25 mpg highway. They also sell about 5 regular cab short bed 2wd 5.0 or 3.5 but can say "low 13 second 1/4 mile". Chevy does the same things. We order our work trucks and I fuss at how some options go away with others. Lol. You have a tow package. And a max tow package. And pro trailering. Lol.
 
I own 10 brands.... And my daughter bought a cruz via mom. Not me. Id never go buy a kia/ Hyundai. I own a shop.

I listed my reasons and very few if any are subjective. The Cruz is very likely the worst truck made today. It wins in no category. Fronteir would be close behind. Then probably taco. They just don't win at anything. Taco has that Toyota name and resale though. And they are built better in several ways. Ranger isn't impressive either.

There isn't a "bad" one made today IMO. I drive them all. Work on many. Own many. They are all good. Somebody has to be worst. Everything else wins in something. Not so much for Cruz. It may handle best though. Would be close with mav just because of ride height.

The ram is the best riding truck made. All big three half tons today ride great. And the numbers are awesome. 400hp, 10k towing etc etc. And the GM and Ford have great resale.

Tundra has resale. Imo that about all. The old v8s were good but the trans weren't much. Hp was great. Today the Tundra is pretty meh.imo

Titan is dead but the resale was ok and hp was good. The v8 was solid. Trans too. Fronteir is dated but solid ish.

Ranger has decent resale. Decent reliability. I think they are stupid. Near the f150 price (and size) and just no point IMO. Same for canyon and Colorado. But both best Cruz at tow or offroad. And anything beats Hyundai for resale.

Maverick has 40+mpg. There isn't much way for anyone to beat that. No other truck is even remotely close. Most here report high 20s mpg and the Cruz is probably the second best truck for mpg. The diesel Chevy does ok too. But then your paying another dollar per gallon and the headaches that go with def.

Everybody wins at something or has redeeming qualities but Cruz. Crap dealer network. No resale. Mediocre awd. Worst history of reliability of the truck brands except maybe ram. Lowest hp of the lot and not much better mpg. Worst back seat of the lot.

Work on them and your going to see where the others are built better too.

Subjectivity I could pile on. But I'll stay objective here.
Then WHY are you on this forum? Dumb 💩 . If Hyundai sucks so bad.. why don't you troll elsewhere.. 😒
 
Dumbest question ever is more like it.
It all depends on for whom and for what. My best truck is not your best truck. I've got two and they are both best. ('22 SC and a '55 Chevy) Best in different ways though. But if I was a different person (like a hand on a 10K acre ranch) they would probably both be worst. DSFDF.
 
I have to agree with Twinsemi. If you get the correct truck for what you plan to do, it will be a great truck. If you try to make a vehicle or truck do something it was NOT designed to do, then it will be a bad vehicle. I am 78 years old now. I have owned 6 trucks over the years. All six have been fine, because I kept them up and never tried to make them do something they were not designed to do. Now I have a Santa Cruz, which is really an SUV. It is fine for what I do now. However I would never try to use it for Construction work, or REAL off-roading. It is a good errand runner for me.
 
Worst truck currently

Pretty much anything made by Ford. Constant recalls over serious issues and problems only get worse with age.

Why? Because ford didn't properly prepare their vehicles for the shift to aluminum bodies.

You see, when you mate aluminum to steel you get galvanic electrolysis. This leads to corrosion in interesting places. Places that affect the grounding of the electrical system. Hence, the unending electrical gremlins that have plagued their trucks since 2017.
Ford found a way to live up to the old acronym Found on roadside dead.

Worst truck after 2000 but before 2017?
Tough call, all the following were the worst.

1st)Again a Ford. From 2008-2010, the Ford 6.4l powerstrokes. Enough said.

2nd) The Hummer H2. Does everything poorly with the bonus of the worst fuel mileage conceivable.

3rd) Pretty much every luxury pickup made in the 2000's. Avalanche, Blackwood, they were all just terrible.

Worst pick up of the 1990's?

The Dodge Dakota's (1st & 2nd gen) were famous for reliability problems.


Worst trucks of the 1980's? A tie between the Dodge Rampage and the Dodge power wagons. Ugly, unreliable and parts falling off as they left the dealership.

That's enough for now.
 
Worst truck currently

Pretty much anything made by Ford. Constant recalls over serious issues and problems only get worse with age.

Why? Because ford didn't properly prepare their vehicles for the shift to aluminum bodies.

You see, when you mate aluminum to steel you get galvanic electrolysis. This leads to corrosion in interesting places. Places that affect the grounding of the electrical system. Hence, the unending electrical gremlins that have plagued their trucks since 2017.
Ford found a way to live up to the old acronym Found on roadside dead.

Worst truck after 2000 but before 2017?
Tough call, all the following were the worst.

1st)Again a Ford. From 2008-2010, the Ford 6.4l powerstrokes. Enough said.

2nd) The Hummer H2. Does everything poorly with the bonus of the worst fuel mileage conceivable.

3rd) Pretty much every luxury pickup made in the 2000's. Avalanche, Blackwood, they were all just terrible.

Worst pick up of the 1990's?

The Dodge Dakota's (1st & 2nd gen) were famous for reliability problems.


Worst trucks of the 1980's? A tie between the Dodge Rampage and the Dodge power wagons. Ugly, unreliable and parts falling off as they left the dealership.

That's enough for now.
We have plenty of aluminum Ford fleet trucks and no issues. The older non aluminum superduties we had all kinds of body mounts fall apart. Rear mounts sucked. Usually around 100-150k. Some sooner. Known issue. Never heard of any such recall with the aluminum trucks an I own several. Lol. You would think they let me know sometime since 15 (not 17) when they switched. Just not true. Too many high mileage ones for sale to bash much. Early tt had turbo issues. 2 year of 5.0 had some oil burners . 18 was one. And the front hubs before 21 were garbage. Dumb design. I service trucks for a big landscaping place and some of his half tons are over 250k. 5.0 trucks.

Any powerstroke not a 7.3 is bad. And we have to pull the cab to do much of anything.

Worst 2000-2017 and you fail to mention afm/dfm/dod? Nor three valve?

I see Dodge and Chevy from 15-20 with rusted holes through the body. Not m issue in the salt with the Fords after 15. Here i wish the hole vehicle was aluminum. Rust ends most every vehicle here

Then WHY are you on this forum? Dumb 💩 . If Hyundai sucks so bad.. why don't you troll elsewhere.. 😒
Wife bought one for the daughter to drive to college. Been covered ad nauseum

As has Hyundai's "sucking".

You sure are high strung. Will all work out. Ive been forgiven for my ignorance. You will be too.
 
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